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All poker players eventually go through a tough period where they string together many losing sessions or canโt seem to ๐ make the money in a succession of tournaments. Even the best players in the game have had significant downswings in ๐ their careers. One of the questions that the CLC coaches get most is โHow do you deal with and recover ๐ from downswings?โ. We asked 2 of the most successful MTT players on the planet, CLCโs Chance Kornuth and Alex Foxen ๐ about their personal experiences with downswings. Letโs dive into their responses! Justin Lynch: What Was The Worst Downswing Of Your ๐ Career? Alex Foxen: Iโd say the worst downswing of my career probably came in 2024. I definitely overextended a bit ๐ from a bankroll perspective, probably playing overconfident and not critical enough of my own game and that is the perfect ๐ recipe to create a big downswing. I donโt have an exact number but probably a couple million lost in that ๐ one. Chance Kornuth: I have taken the shots and went up to a million and then down toR$100-$200k before I ๐ stayed over a million when games were softer and I thought I should have taken a lot more but now ๐ that Iโm a family man, I donโt do that anymore (laughs). Justin Lynch: What is your go to activity to ๐ reset during a downswing? Alex Foxen: Absolutely working out and doing something physical. Getting your mind out of whatever state ๐ it is in. Anything that creates that meditative singular focus that a workout or maybe doing something with your hands ๐ does. Something that can get you out of your head and into your body, that gets you into the present ๐ moment as much as possible. I think physical movement is really really good for that. Chance Kornuth: I like working ๐ out and spending time with my friends and family, watching movies and playing games. Doing anything nonpoker to get 100% ๐ of your focus onto other things. Justin Lynch: How Do You Measure if youโre running bad vs not playing your ๐ best? Alex Foxen: I donโt think that there is a perfect way to measure these two things. Thatโs why it ๐ is really important to be constantly critical and the best way to avoid a downswing is to always act like ๐ you are in a downswing, always put work into your game, always question everything you do even when it works. ๐ Ask the questions โCould I have made more on that line?โ, โCould I have possibly bet bigger here?โ, โWhat if ๐ he had this hand?โ, โHow would I approach it if the turn was this?โ. All these different varying questions to ๐ ask yourself to keep yourself in a state of growth instead of stagnation. For me and I also feel it ๐ is true for most people, downswings always come after a period of stagnation and then the downswing almost always end ๐ after a period of effort into change. I know so many people who decided to work with a mental game ๐ coach or decided to seek coaching for the fundamental side of their poker game or start working with a solver. ๐ So many of these people get instant results and I think there is an energetic aspect of that, putting your ๐ effort into productive things allows you to be at your best in the game and to be more open minded ๐ which leads you with more room for growth. If you just think what you are doing is right and youโre ๐ not questioning it constantly then when something comes across that someone else does or that is an option to do ๐ something it will be harder for you to accept it or consider it as an option for you just because ๐ of the nature of it and the state that your brain is in at the time. Chance Kornuth: I think ๐ thatโs actually something that people mess up as far as running bad vs not playing your best. Focusing on the ๐ things that you can control as opposed to things you canโt is imperative Justin Lynch: During a downswing do you ๐ put in more study vs more volume- whatโs the mix there? Alex Foxen: For me itโs mostly playing, I am ๐ doing a little bit of both all the time. So I think that studying is valuable, however without regular play ๐ itโs pretty worthless. There is too much to think about in poker, you need some things to be automatic, so ๐ if you just study when you get to play none of those things are going to be automatic, if you ๐ just play you are not as likely to question your decision making and improve on what you are doing and ๐ your process in the game. That side is pretty heavy in favor of playing over study, but you canโt optimize ๐ one without the other. Chance Kornuth: I would say definitely put in a little more study, it is definitely easiest ๐ for us to want to study more when we havenโt been losing, however for me itโs like preparing for a ๐ stop. I study for the WSOP or before I do certain things and if I notice that I was inadequate ๐ on a certain board texture and I didnt know what to do, I tell Foxen,โLetโs go through the spot and ๐ do a webinar on it.โ Justin Lynch: What do you consider a downswing at this point in your career? Alex ๐ Foxen: Honestly, I donโt have any kind of metric for it. I donโt think about that in that way at ๐ all. I consider a downswing when I look at how much cash I have and I am surprised with how ๐ low it is. I am not super meticulous with managing my bankroll, I have an idea where it is and ๐ I take risks accordingly but I am not necessarily looking at my results and saying โOh wow, I am on ๐ a 23 buyin downswingโ. The moral of what I am saying is downswings are only in your head, they are ๐ a construct they donโt exist. Yeah we go up and down in the chart but if you zoom out no ๐ downswing is actually real on a players graph, they just go up and down. There is only the present moment, ๐ that is the only thing that exists in whatever kind of esoteric principle. If the present moment only exists there ๐ is no such thing as a downswing and there is no such thing as feeling bad about it. So if ๐ you stay in this present focused ideology of constant improvement and constant growth, then yeah downswings will happen but then ๐ you wont notice them because all you are doing is trying to improve your current self and trying to improve ๐ your current bankroll not worrying about what it was yesterday. Chance Kornuth: I consider a downswing more of a monetary ๐ percentage. For example If I lost 60k today thatโs more how I measure it. I never really thought about it ๐ in terms of not cashing X amount of tournaments or losing X amount of buy-ins.
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